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  4. Fraudster: Leslie Charles Gilroy, NSW Police Officer
  5. Fraud: Tracey Anne Ganzerla -- Tracey Anne Payne
  6. Fraud: Eugene Cleveland Ganzerla -- central west NSW
  7. Fraud: Detective David Kay NSW Police Investigator
  8. Fraud: Ben Nicholls Solicitor -- dickhead and idiot
  9. Elrington Boardman Allport, Lawyers Queanbeyan, NSW IDIOTS


John Reid exposes the many examples of police corruption right around Australia, including the blatant criminal fraud, at gunpoint by the scum parasite police 'officer' Leslie Charles Gilroy of Queanbeyan, but, as shown, corruption like this is standard conduct for police in Australia.

Mander Toyota Queanbeyan NSW (employ a liar & perjurer)

Postby AussieJohnAct » Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:42 am

Mander Toyota Qbn NSW employ a liar and perjuror.
Mark McDonald liar & perjuror of Mander Toyota Workshops at Queanbeyan NSW deliberately committed perjury 0n a sworn Affidavit No. 2330/02 on 16th May 2002, signed in front of and witnessed by Benjamin Nicholls a solicitor for Elrington Boardman Allport solicitors Queanbeyan NSW when he deliberately lied (committed perjury) on a sworn Statement for the Supreme Court in Sydney NSW.
This liar, perjurer and "dope-smoker" and steroid user (he buys his "dope" and drugs from Lloyd Stephen Ganzerla. Bangalay Street Qbn NSW) deliberately lied on a sworn statutory declaration in order to gain a material benefit for his friend lloyd Ganzerla, in order that Lloyd Ganzerla could steal cash, goods and a property from me, John Reid.
This liar Mark McDonald from Mander Toyota knew full well that I (John Reid) owned these businesses and also that I only dealt with Guido the Manager of Mander Totota in Queanbeyan, indeed I also purchased a forklift from Guido at Mander Toyota Queanbeyan, and it was my cheques that Mander Toyota at Queanbeyan recieved, and Guido THE MANAGER AND Mark McDonald knew full well that I was the owner of those businesses.
The reason Mark McDonald (liar) of Manda Toyota at Queanbeyan deliberately lied and commit perjury on his statement , was that he was doing his drug supplier, dealer and user friend Lloyd Stephen Ganzerla a favor.
This idiot,liar, perjurer and "dope smoker" and user Mark McDonald from Mander Toyota also said in his Sworn statement for the Supreme Court of NSW that everytime he went to my tyre business he used to observe me not fitting tyres, but just watching customers and the workers, he indicated that I did not change tyres.! IS THIS IDIOT "dope-smoker & user" FOR REAL ? .. a successful businessman like me, 56 years old and not in good health changing tyres ? ... what sort of "dope" was Mark McDonald smoking when he signed that sworn statement under oath ... I, like any other successful businessman, was watching to make sure my business (businesses) were running smoothly, thats why I had successful businesses.I never ever saw Guido at Mander Toyota working in the workshop unless he was showing a worker something, Guido was too busy running the bussiness effectively to be doing manual work.!
Mark McDonald of Mander Toyota at Queanbeyan lies and perjury on 16th May 2002 (and at other times) contributed to my losing hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Mark McDonald was only employed in the workshops at Mander Toyota Queanbeyan at the time and did not have any authority or permission from Mander Toyota to speak on behalf of Mander Toyota Queanbeyan or swear on Supreme Court Statements on behalf of Mander Toyota Queanbeyan NSW.
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If anybody wants a copy of Mark McDonald perjured sworn statement signed in front of and witnessed by Benjamin Nicholls a solicitor for Elrington Boardman Allport solicitors Queanbeyan NSW for the Supreme Court of NSW No 2330/02 dated the 16th day of May 2002, please contact me

Leslie Charles Gilroy NSW Police Officer (a thief)
employee of Andrew Phillip Scipione the Commissioner of the New South Wales Police Force
in company with other criminals
Lloyd Stephen Ganzerla NSW (thief and drug dealer/user)
Belinda Jane Ganzerla (nee Keuning) NSW (thief and junkie)
Eugene Cleveland Ganzerla NSW (thief-bully-coward)
Tracy Anne Ganzerla (nee Payne) NSW (thief)
Joan Margaret Ganzerla (nee Newman) NSW (madam-prostitute-whore-thief)
Ronald John and Barry Smith (ex Harden NSW area) (thieves)
Gemma Reid-Newman-Hunter-McManus (she is always using different names) (whore-thief)

ALL the above criminals broke into our home and the businesses that we owned on our large property at 25 Silva Avenue in Queanbeyan NSW 2620
Action Amusements - Barbara,s Tyre Factory - Barbara,s Battery Factory - Queanbeyan Auctions
and robbed us, then "trashed" everything that they couldn,t steal or carry away.
This was only possible with the help of corrupt NSW Police Officer Leslie Charles Gilroy employee of Andrew Phillip Scipione the Commissioner of the New South Wales Police Force who was "in" for his "cut" of the "proceeds" which included over a quarter of a million dollars in cash which was kept on our premises to run our "cash-flow" businesses on weekends when the banks were closed.
Leslie Charles Gilroy NSW Police Officer (a thief) employee of Andrew Phillip Scipione the Commissioner of the New South Wales Police Force armed with a pistol, seriously threatened my wife and I, and ordered us to immediately leave our property at 25 Silva Avenue or he would immediately arrest us, Leslie Charles Gilroy NSW Police Officer (a thief) employee of Andrew Phillip Scipione the Commissioner of the New South Wales Police Force did not offer any reason or explanation for these nasty and viscious threats and actions.
Luckily for my wife and I, all this happened while my Solicitor MR Brian Worth (from Canberra) was present and was a witness, yet NSW Police refused to do anything about it because one of the "boys" (a copper) was involved.
***Read the whole story here ***--->. viewforum.php?f=2

* Read all about Leslie Charles Gilroy thieving NSW cop ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22

* Read About Lloyd Stephen Ganzerla Queanbeyan NSW thief & liar ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=23

* Read about Eugene Cleveland Ganzerla NSW thief & liar ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=24

* Read about Tracey Anne Ganzerla NSW thief & liar ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25

* Read about Belinda Jane Ganzerla NSW thief & liar ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26

* Read about Ben Nicholls solicitor Queanbeyan NSW IDIOT ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31

* Read about Elrington Boardman Allport Lawyers Queanbeyan NSW IDIOTS ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=32

* Read aboutDetective David Kay NSW Police "pretend" investigator ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30

* Read about Mander Toyota Qbn employ perjuror & liar---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=45

* Read about Mark McDonald Qbn liar & perjuror --->
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=44


[*] Can you trust [/size]Mander Toyota of Queanbeyan?
[*] Mark McDonald at Mander Toyota is a liar & perjurer!
[*] Dirk Nierop's battle against "bent" NSW coppers
[*] Fraudster: Leslie Charles Gilroy, NSW Police Officer
[*] Fraud: Tracey Anne Ganzerla -- Tracey Anne Payne
[*] Fraud: Eugene Cleveland Ganzerla -- central west NSW
[*] Fraud: Detective David Kay NSW Police Investigator
[*] Fraud: Ben Nicholls Solicitor -- dickhead and idiot
[*] Elrington Boardman Allport, Lawyers Queanbeyan, NSW IDIOTS [/list][/b]
in company with other criminals
Lloyd Stephen Ganzerla NSW (thief and drug dealer/user)
Belinda Jane Ganzerla (nee Keuning) NSW (thief and junkie)
Eugene Cleveland Ganzerla NSW (thief-bully-coward)
Tracy Anne Ganzerla (nee Payne) NSW (thief)
Joan Margaret Ganzerla (nee Newman) NSW (madam-prostitute-whore-thief)
Ronald John and Barry Smith (ex Harden NSW area) (thieves)
Gemma Reid-Newman-Hunter-McManus (she is always using different names) (whore-thief)

ALL the above criminals broke into our home and the businesses that we owned on our large property at 25 Silva Avenue in Queanbeyan NSW 2620
Action Amusements - Barbara,s Tyre Factory - Barbara,s Battery Factory - Queanbeyan Auctions
and robbed us, then "trashed" everything that they couldn,t steal or carry away.
This was only possible with the help of corrupt NSW Police Officer Leslie Charles Gilroy employee of Andrew Phillip Scipione the Commissioner of the New South Wales Police Force who was "in" for his "cut" of the "proceeds" which included over a quarter of a million dollars in cash which was kept on our premises to run our "cash-flow" businesses on weekends when the banks were closed.
Leslie Charles Gilroy NSW Police Officer (a thief) employee of Andrew Phillip Scipione the Commissioner of the New South Wales Police Force armed with a pistol, seriously threatened my wife and I, and ordered us to immediately leave our property at 25 Silva Avenue or he would immediately arrest us, Leslie Charles Gilroy NSW Police Officer (a thief) employee of Andrew Phillip Scipione the Commissioner of the New South Wales Police Force did not offer any reason or explanation for these nasty and viscious threats and actions.
Luckily for my wife and I, all this happened while my Solicitor MR Brian Worth (from Canberra) was present and was a witness, yet NSW Police refused to do anything about it because one of the "boys" (a copper) was involved.
***Read the whole story here ***--->. viewforum.php?f=2

* Read all about Leslie Charles Gilroy thieving NSW cop ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22

* Read About Lloyd Stephen Ganzerla Queanbeyan NSW thief & liar ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=23

* Read about Eugene Cleveland Ganzerla NSW thief & liar ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=24

* Read about Tracey Anne Ganzerla NSW thief & liar ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25

* Read about Belinda Jane Ganzerla NSW thief & liar ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26

* Read about Ben Nicholls solicitor Queanbeyan NSW IDIOT ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31

* Read about Elrington Boardman Allport Lawyers Queanbeyan NSW IDIOTS ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=32

* Read aboutDetective David Kay NSW Police "pretend" investigator ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30

* Read about Mander Toyota Qbn employ perjuror & liar---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=45

* Read about Mark McDonald Qbn liar & perjuror --->
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=44


[*] Can you trust [/size]Mander Toyota of Queanbeyan?
[*] Mark McDonald at Mander Toyota is a liar & perjurer!
[*] Dirk Nierop's battle against "bent" NSW coppers
[*] Fraudster: Leslie Charles Gilroy, NSW Police Officer
[*] Fraud: Tracey Anne Ganzerla -- Tracey Anne Payne
[*] Fraud: Eugene Cleveland Ganzerla -- central west NSW
[*] Fraud: Detective David Kay NSW Police Investigator
[*] Fraud: Ben Nicholls Solicitor -- dickhead and idiot
[*] Elrington Boardman Allport, Lawyers Queanbeyan, NSW IDIOTS [/list][/b]
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Re: Mander Toyota Queanbeyan NSW (employ a liar & perjurer)

Postby AussieJohnAct » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:22 am

Leslie Charles Gilroy NSW Police Officer (a thief)
employee of Andrew Phillip Scipione the Commissioner of the New South Wales Police Force
in company with other criminals
Lloyd Stephen Ganzerla NSW (thief and drug dealer/user)
Belinda Jane Ganzerla (nee Keuning) NSW (thief and junkie)
Eugene Cleveland Ganzerla NSW (thief-bully-coward)
Tracy Anne Ganzerla (nee Payne) NSW (thief)
Joan Margaret Ganzerla (nee Newman) NSW (madam-prostitute-whore-thief)
Ronald John and Barry Smith (ex Harden NSW area) (thieves)
Gemma Reid-Newman-Hunter-McManus (she is always using different names) (whore-thief)

ALL the above criminals broke into our home and the businesses that we owned on our large property at 25 Silva Avenue in Queanbeyan NSW 2620
Action Amusements - Barbara,s Tyre Factory - Barbara,s Battery Factory - Queanbeyan Auctions
and robbed us, then "trashed" everything that they couldn,t steal or carry away.
This was only possible with the help of corrupt NSW Police Officer Leslie Charles Gilroy employee of Andrew Phillip Scipione the Commissioner of the New South Wales Police Force who was "in" for his "cut" of the "proceeds" which included over a quarter of a million dollars in cash which was kept on our premises to run our "cash-flow" businesses on weekends when the banks were closed.
Leslie Charles Gilroy NSW Police Officer (a thief) employee of Andrew Phillip Scipione the Commissioner of the New South Wales Police Force armed with a pistol, seriously threatened my wife and I, and ordered us to immediately leave our property at 25 Silva Avenue or he would immediately arrest us, Leslie Charles Gilroy NSW Police Officer (a thief) employee of Andrew Phillip Scipione the Commissioner of the New South Wales Police Force did not offer any reason or explanation for these nasty and viscious threats and actions.
Luckily for my wife and I, all this happened while my Solicitor MR Brian Worth (from Canberra) was present and was a witness, yet NSW Police refused to do anything about it because one of the "boys" (a copper) was involved.
***Read the whole story here ***--->. viewforum.php?f=2

* Read all about Leslie Charles Gilroy thieving NSW cop ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22

* Read About Lloyd Stephen Ganzerla Queanbeyan NSW thief & liar ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=23

* Read about Eugene Cleveland Ganzerla NSW thief & liar ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=24

* Read about Tracey Anne Ganzerla NSW thief & liar ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25

* Read about Belinda Jane Ganzerla NSW thief & liar ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26

* Read about Ben Nicholls solicitor Queanbeyan NSW IDIOT ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31

* Read about Elrington Boardman Allport Lawyers Queanbeyan NSW IDIOTS ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=32

* Read aboutDetective David Kay NSW Police "pretend" investigator ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30

* Read about Mander Toyota Qbn employ perjuror & liar---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=45

* Read about Mark McDonald Qbn liar & perjuror --->
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=44


[*] Can you trust [/size]Mander Toyota of Queanbeyan?
[*] Mark McDonald at Mander Toyota is a liar & perjurer!
[*] Dirk Nierop's battle against "bent" NSW coppers
[*] Fraudster: Leslie Charles Gilroy, NSW Police Officer
[*] Fraud: Tracey Anne Ganzerla -- Tracey Anne Payne
[*] Fraud: Eugene Cleveland Ganzerla -- central west NSW
[*] Fraud: Detective David Kay NSW Police Investigator
[*] Fraud: Ben Nicholls Solicitor -- dickhead and idiot
[*] Elrington Boardman Allport, Lawyers Queanbeyan, NSW IDIOTS [/list][/b]
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EXPLANATION WHY I NAMED AND SHAMED

Postby AussieJohnAct » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:49 am

EXPLANATION WHY I NAMED AND SHAMED
Some people may think that I am a nasty person.
I am a law abiding, god fearing citizen in my sixtys. I used to be a happy father, grandfather, husband and self-made businessman who rarely ever missed a days work in my life as I wasn,t lucky enough to be born with a "silver spoon" in my mouth, and I had to work hard for everything that I had.
I strived hard from a very young age to get myself up in the world, so I worked extremely hard all my life to get the things that I wanted.
While my mates were in the pub drinking and partying, I was doing overtime and working extra shifts.
I always gave my family and children the best that I could afford.
I was a very successful self-made businessman who owned Barbaras Battery Factory, Barbaras Tyre Factory, Action Amusements, Queanbeyan Auctions plus I owned a few propertys including the large industrial-commercial property that my business,s and my home were on.
I have publicly identified and shamed these criminals who have destroyed my life and my wifes life, and I believe that what I have done by publicly identifying and shaming them is not as half as nasty as what these lowlife criminals did to my wife and I. I have no choice but to do this, because NSW Police will not do anything because of the involvement of one of their Police Officers.In NSW Police investigate crooked Police so with this system you cannot expect in NSW any justice if a crooked NSW cop has committed crimes against you, NSW Police just hush it up and cover it up regardless of how much conclusive evidence there is.! (READ MORE ABOUT NSW POLICE INVESTIGATIONS HERE viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30 )
After the smoke settled, and after the criminals and crooked NSW cop Leslie Charles Gilroy, had finished with us, we had very, very little remaining, as what the thieves could not take, they deliberately trashed and destroyed, we had lost everything that we had worked so hard for all our lives.
Everything that I have written about this is 100% true and correct.
This tragedy could not have happened if criminal NSW Police Officer Leslie Charles Gilroy armed with a pistol had not helped the criminals by terrorising my wife and I and forcing us under nasty, viscious threats and actions to get off our property.
The NSW Government, NSW Police Force, indeed nobody, has given us an explanation or reason for Leslie Charles Gilroys behaviour and actions, so we can only believe that he was in with the criminals for his "cut" of the cash and goods that was stolen, and indeed, there were hundreds of thousands of dollars of cash stolen from our safes.(even our safes were stolen)
On the evening of 17 April 2002, thieves used a corrupt, criminal NSW COP terrorist Leslie Charles Gilroy armed with a gun, to illegally detain my wife and I (owners of the property), and kept my wife and I (the owners of the property) separated from our property while the thieves, Lloyd Stephen Ganzerla (thief), Eugene Cleveland Ganzerla (thief), Belinda Jane Ganzerla (thief), Joan Margaret Ganzerla (thief), Tracey Anne Ganzerla (thief) Gemma Mary Christina Reid (thief) Ronald John Smith (thief), Barry Smith (thief) thieved, plundered, robbed, looted and trashed our property, cash, valuables.
YOU CAN READ MORE HERE

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Our original Questions still unanswered after 7 years and multiple Police Investigations

Questions NOT answered by Detective Dave Kay the "pretend" NSW Police Investigator, one of the "honest" NSW cops who investigates "honest" NSW cops.

* What is going to happen to all of those who were involved in the home invasion ... assaults .... theft, robbery and trashing of our home and businesses at 25 Silva Avenue.
* Why did criminal NSW cop Leslie Charles Gilroy not listen and refuse to take any action, when Barbara Reid told him (Gilroy) in front of Mr. Brian Worth (WORTH & CO SOLICITORS) and John Reid, and Jim and Barbara Butler (from Nowra, visiting at the time) that Eugene Ganzerla -- Lloyd Ganzerla and Ronald Smith had assaulted John Reid.
* Why did criminal NSW cop Leslie Charles Gilroy not listen and refuse to take any action when he first arrived at 25 Silva Avenue, on the 17th. April 2002 when we he was told, in front of Mr Worth (ACT Solicitor), and Jim and Barbara Butler (from Nowra, visiting at the time) about our home invasion, and the assaults upon John and that the criminals were still present.
* Why did criminal NSW cop Leslie Charles Gilroy not make a note in his Police note book after telling Mr. Worth (Solicitor) that he would .... when Barbara Reid first noticed the safes and cash boxes were missing, and it was quite clear, and very obvious, that a very serious robbery had occurred, and a large amount of cash had been taken.
* Why did criminal NSW cop Leslie Charles Gilroy not make a report back at the Queanbeyan Police Station about the theft of the safes and cash boxes and large amount of cash, like he told John and Barbara Reid, and Mr Worth (Solicitor) that he would..
* Why did it eventually take a visit to the Queanbeyan Police station by John and Barbara Reid, and a Barrister Mr Steven Whybrow and a Solicitor (Mr Brian Worth) WORTH & CO SOLICITORS to finally get the "Officer in Charge" of the Queanbeyan Police station to "surface" and listen to our request for Police help in regard to what had happened to us at 25 Silva Avenue.... and then why did NSW Police still not help us.?
* Why did criminal NSW cop Leslie Charles Gilroy or the Officer in charge or any other Queanbeyan Police Officers not respond to Mr. Worths Fax the morning after we returned to our home regarding the serious robbery and trashing........ Mr Worth deliberately sent a Fax so that criminal NSW cop Leslie CharlesGilroy or someone in authority at the Queanbeyan Police Station would have to respond to it, and for Mr Worths records.
* Why did criminal NSW cop Leslie Charles Gilroy terrorise and threaten John Reid with arrest, lots of times, in front of me and Mr. Worth and Jim and Barbara Butler (visiting from Nowra at the time), that criminal NSW cop Leslie Charles Gilroy would arrrest John if he did not leave his home at 25 Silva Avenue immediately.
* Why did criminal NSW cop Leslie Charles Gilroy threaten John with arrest in front of me and Mr. Worth and Jim and Barbara Butler (visiting from Nowra) if John did not leave Queanbeyan immediately.!
* Why did criminal NSW cop Leslie Charles Gilroy keep coming around to our home in Silva Avenue harassing, terrorising and threatening John, and always being "nasty" viscious.
* Why did criminal NSW cop Leslie Charles Gilroy not immediately search for the safes and cash boxes when Barbara Reid and Mr Brian Worth (ACT Solicitor) noticed and reported to Gilroy that they were missing.
* Why did criminal NSW cop Leslie Charles Gilroy charge John Reid with possession of a gun, that was "found conveniently" by someone who had broken into (home invaded) John Reids home and who was illegally in John Reids home,..... and when it was "conveniently found".... John Reid was at least 400km away.
* Why did criminal NSW cop Leslie Charles Gilroy charge John Reid with possession of a gun that did not have fingerprints on it.
* Why did criminal NSW cop Leslie Charles Gilroy not take any action, on the 2nd. May 2003. in the Queanbeyan Magistrates Court, after he saw in court that the Magistrate believed that the gun was "planted" on John Reid.... and that the Magistrate also knew that the reason for "planting" the gun on John Reid, was to make it easier to get John Reid out of his home so that he could be easily robbed..
* Why did criminal NSW cop Leslie Charles Gilroy charge John Reid with AVO,s alleging serious threats made by John Reid...... four months previously...... why did he not ask the persons who made the AVO,s against John Reid, why they waited over 4 months to report it to police, and especially conveniently at a time when they wanted to "kick" John Reid out of his home to rob him...... they were very serious allegations .... any honest person, without "ulterior" motives, would have contacted the police IMMEDIATELY.!
* Why did the "Officer in Charge" of the Queanbeyan Police Station not have the decency to return phone calls to John or Barbara Reid, or their Barrister or Solicitor or others who made phone calls regarding the home invasion, illegal eviction, assaults and the robbery and trashing of the Reids home and businesses.

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would you trust Detective Dave Kay NSW liar cop

Postby AussieJohnAct » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:31 pm

BEWARE Detective Dave Kay NSW Police a liar & conman.Well firstly I must say, Detective Dave Kay "fraud" Police Investigator is full of shit, as he told my wife and I on numerous occassions that the thieves who robbed us did not break any laws when they committed perjury on many occassions by their sworn statutory declarations. Detective Dave Kay "fake" Police investigator has written proof of this perjury and so do we as we also have copys of their perjured sworn statutory statements.And the thieves committed more serious crimes than that they made sworn statutory declarations in order to gain a material benefit? ... they used these perjured documents to try and steal from my wife and I.
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